Notion Ink

Camera and More

Posted in Uncategorized by vikramdutt9 on April 7, 2012


For a change, it’s not Rohan here. Work on Camera is still a WIP. Code for the camera libraries are closed source with NVidia and getting around the camera sub-system is taking longer than expected.

Having said that, if you are waiting for the camera update, voicing at Tegra Forum might help though most of the questions are either deleted or never replied. Here is one of the dev for Adam voicing for support, but even the last suggestion suggests to move on to OMAP

As the lead for the sw, it is extremely important for us to make sure that the roadmap doesn’t break anything on Adam 1. The only option (and better one) was to opt for RenderScript.

RenderScript is hardware independent (though can be tweaked) and development on RS will make sure that Adam 1 stays in SW support for at least 2 more years.

RenderScript and SVG are going to be in out focus for next two-year here at Notion Ink. Below is a very small sample of RenderScript rendering an A3D model of simple sphere, with Earth Map (from Nasa), bump map created using GIMP, couple of lights and animation (not obvious from an image).

Frankly sharing anything on development on next versions of Eden doesn’t make sense till the camera issue is resolved. That’s the last piece of puzzle, and if you can help sport your voice on that forum, possibly we can fix things faster.

As an ex developer of a leading brand you all know about, it is really fascinating to even absorb the idea of how community has made more than 200 ROM variants for Adam. Unlike Adam 1, there will be no short-cuts for 2. If something not working, it won’t go out. Our roadmap is built for next 4 years, so there will be speed differences. But one thing is clear and that’s what I bring here at NI, great products needs stronger fundamentals, and that’s what we will build first.

Last words on the next generation SW approach. We are approaching the era of micro-apps. Every app cannot be tuned in for a particular user. A doctor may have 15 years of formal education and 25 years of practice, but when it comes to sw, he can’t possible build one. But if see clearly, IDEs and APIs like Android SDK and iOS SDK have worked till now to ease the development of the programmers to attract more developers, making things sometimes as easy as making a “task flow” like an accountant would do, “refer” a value in one cell of a sheet to another cell. There is a truck load of information yet to come, but first things first.



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  1. karen said, on April 7, 2012 at 12:12

    Excuse me, don’t mean to be rude, but could you please introduce yourself, ‘V’?
    I know quite well what position I’m in owning two Adam 1s, but who are you?

    Enjoy Easter!

  2. Devadatta said, on April 7, 2012 at 12:31

    looking forward for the next one..

  3. Pratik Andro Xda said, on April 7, 2012 at 13:38

    Will wait for Eden 2,will be interesting to see how they incorporate it in ICS.
    Believe it or not I bought Adam because of Eden..

    @Karen..I guess it’s better to leave it to our imagination..

  4. gallan1 said, on April 7, 2012 at 19:40

    Thanks for the update, but can you please fix the Microphone in ICS?

  5. Udayan U said, on April 7, 2012 at 19:50

    V for Vendetta ? Just kidding. This is good stuff. But then it is really hard to believe that you guys need to contact NVIDIA via forums. Don’t they have a CRM or a tech support ? Why would they not release the camera code? How is it that Samsung, ASUS, Lenovo, Toshiba have it all right? And even the chinese companies have a fully working ICS on Tegra.

    You built a tablet based on NVIDIA’s flagship SOC and sold thousands of them. How did the camera work initially ? What is the agreement signed between Notion Ink and NVIDIA with regards to future support?

    I know that none of my questions will be answered. Giving petty reasons and asking customer’s to go and knock the supplier’s door is nothing but foolishness.

  6. raja52 said, on April 8, 2012 at 11:38

    V stands for Vikram Dutt……(please see the black band on the top of this blog below ‘Camera and more’ title.

    I am sure you want to know what he is in NI and not just name……. :-)

  7. karen said, on April 8, 2012 at 13:24

    Exactly my point ;)
    After all the fierce comments on the last blog post, one would expect a proper follow up from NI. Although I appreciate V’s posting, it would show some respect to tell ur what position he is in. That would give some weight to his words.
    For all I know, he could be Bangalore’s Easter bunny :)

  8. sanal said, on April 10, 2012 at 04:37

    Vikram Dutt is what his id states….guess that is his name…as for what he is in NI…in the 3rd para he begins with “As the lead for the sw”….seems like he’s holds a/the technical lead/principal architect kinda designation….unless someone has a different interpretation of the sentence.

  9. Tim Dalinian Jones said, on April 12, 2012 at 20:05

    V for Vikram Dutt, Software Lead at Notion Ink, or so it seems.

    Thanks for the info, Vikram. I’ve acted on your request and posted as follows:

    “I am an owner of one of the tablet computers affected by the issue about which Jens Andersen originally posted in Dec 2011. I’m currently running Android 4.0.3, but my camera isn’t working, and I’d very much like to get it back in working order again, please. I note that nothing substantive has been posted by anybody from NVIDIA in the last four months in this channel, which is very disappointing indeed.

    I second the comment by fosser2 – the community of developers and users of NVIDIA Tegra 2 equipped devices need to provide continuing support for these products, and have a right to expect NVIDIA to provide adequate documentation support to enable them to do so. Failing to do so smacks of chip maker initiated built-in obsolescence, which is a sure fire way to lose friends and alienate people.

    Since openness in HW and SW is the way of the future, this studied ignorance by NVIDIA reflects very poorly on them as a reliable company. Unless this changes, and the sooner the better, in the future I shall be avoiding purchasing devices with NVIDIA componentry inside, such as the Tegra 3, in favour of chip makers who DO provide adequate documentation support for their products.”
    ~ dalinian, comment on ‘Tegra VI/CSI interface’, at NVIDIA Developer Forums

    Other Adam1 owners might like to register and +1 this comment, or leave their own.

    However, I strongly support the comments by:
    • UserAAA – “If you need to get any support you should contact to an NVIDIA’s representatives directly. It will be the shortest way to get answers.”
    • Udayan U – “It is really hard to believe that you guys need to contact NVIDIA via forums. Don’t they have a CRM or a tech support? You built a tablet based on NVIDIA’s flagship SOC and sold thousands of them. How did the camera work initially? What is the agreement signed between Notion Ink and NVIDIA with regards to future support? Giving petty reasons and asking customer’s to go and knock the supplier’s door is nothing but foolishness.”
    • gallan1 – “Can you please fix the Microphone in ICS?”

    As a MacBook Pro owner, myself and other Mac+Adam1 owners also need an ICS that:
    • enables our Adam1’s camera and microphone hardware
    • allows bog standard easy access to the Android App Ecosystem by running Google’s Play Store App
    • does NOT require a PC running M$ Windoze or Linux + hacker-style skills to install

    More info: see my three postings at Thread: ‘ICS Android 4.0 beta – Download and Installation’ on the Conclave Forum, beginning:
    • How do I access the Google Play Store app on my Adam tablet?

  10. topspnr said, on April 15, 2012 at 21:31

    At CES 2013 in January 8-11

    notionink eve


    Jim, l still think he’s dead, but l’ll post anyway.

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