Notion Ink

Taking Gingerbread with a pinch of Salt!

Posted in Uncategorized by Rohan Shravan on July 29, 2010

Hi All,

There is a big Gingerbread confusion around in the meeting rooms here. Its tricky to explain you all as well. That OS will be lot more superior than 2.2. And there ARE few products hitting with 3.0 soon. It needs to be evaluated that what does that mean. The window is really small for 2.2 devices.

Things are strange which Google does, and they might do a lot, open a lot more And while they do all this, there are only few people who know what exactly. And now since that cannot be communicated it becomes a very difficult decision, especially for start-ups like us.

Back to the meeting.


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  1. namkroz said, on July 29, 2010 at 13:21

    Dear Rohan,

    Nobody will complain about an Android 2.2 Adam,
    as long as you will have a very capable and fast team that will port Gingerbread as fast as possible when it is out.

    And please, DONT start trying to make it difficult for people to install their own custom ROMs. People who bought the device have the right to put whichever version of Android/Ubuntu/Chrome OS on it that they prefer.
    What you see these days that users of certain cell phones have to try all kinds of tricks, just to be able to update to a newer Android version. Because their manufacturer either doesn’t want to update it, or is too slow to update it.
    (seriously if programmers succeed in their free time porting FroYo to a previously 1.6 device BEFORE the “developpers” of that smartphone can do it, shame on those developpers!)

    And keep up the regular updates, people appreciate this!


    • slowrun said, on July 29, 2010 at 17:15

      namkroz is right, a platform easy to customize / update, with available specifications for accessing all hardware, will be a dream for every programmer and will make _your_ slate one of the most used. See what append with Linksys Access Points or with Arduino or every other ‘open spec’ hardware.

      Leaving your slate ‘open’ will NOT advantage your competitors, but will force them to make open their product or lose market share.

      You are not a cell-phone making company that realese a new (and often incompatible) model every two weeks, you can release a new model only every twelve month and be sure that every program, application or OS that worked on the previous one surely will run on the new one (or at least that who developed it, will try to make it work with perseverance and with the help of others interested).

      Don’t lose the support of thousands of (free) developers, testers, UI Engineers or geeks.

    • vkelman said, on August 3, 2010 at 00:36

      Leaving it open for possible custom ROMs requires a proper warranty policy. Installing custom ROMs and fixing possible “bricked” tablets shouldn’t be covered by a regular warranty. It would be too much of a burden for Notion Ink.
      Though, it would be nice to be able to alway log into a sort of “recovery console” and revert back to a stock Adam ROM.

  2. harishsave said, on July 29, 2010 at 13:29

    Lots of new tablets poping up. You people better hurry. After so many days I saw a new post highlighted in my RSS reader, I was hoping it to be about the launch announcement….but god knows how many days we have to wait for ADAM.

  3. sunchicax said, on July 29, 2010 at 13:32

    Here a simple solution: release with Froyo, update to Gingerbread a few months later. Seriously, do you think you can afford any more delays at this point?

    What worries me is that this seems to mean the release date is still far away. I mean, you guys are *now* deciding on the operating system?

    Oh well. The first tablet with PQ screen gets my money. Adam seems wonderful, but for now I have no reason to believe it’s more than a mythical creature. Even the Pooja photos you posted recently contain an obvious mock-up (or an earlier prototype).

    Good luck.

    • sunchicax said, on July 30, 2010 at 04:35

      Upon some more careful consideration, I think I understand why this solution (release with 2.2 and update to 3.0 soon afterwards) might not be that simple.

      We don’t really know the details of what Gingerbread will bring, but rumor has it that one of the most important innovations should be the “decoupling” of custom UI “skin” (device/manufacturer dependent) from the rest of the Android OS (and applications). This is a welcome feature, since this way the future OS upgrades will not depend on the manufacturer whims (the awful truth: more than 50% of android phones still run on versions 1.x), they can be implemented as soon as they are released (by Google et al), and the custom skin will practically be just another application. Now from the point of view of the hardware manufacturer like NI who needs to produce quite a few custom “tweaks” due to the nature of the device, the difference between these two approaches must be enormous, meaning that implementing both of them is a major pain in the neck.

      But still… The earliest Gingerbread devices can be expected in December or so. That is way too late, people will go for other options, and there will likely be quite a few of those at the time.

    • Sovereign John said, on August 1, 2010 at 17:00


      You’re absolutely correct. The first PQ screen will get the loyalty of millions of consumers. ADAM once thought of as an innovative product is now becoming, as you so rightly pointed out, a mythical creature.

      My daughter told me about the ADAM and was excited. I became excited as well. She and her husband saved up their money & I was gonna buy an Adam too. My daughter was completely sold on the Adam PQ/LCD screen and so was I.

      I wonder what company will actually sell such a device? They’re gonna make a fortune.

  4. fausti64 said, on July 29, 2010 at 13:56

    I have been in the same situation regarding startups. Now HTC is shipping Froyo with all there phones in China. Next thing is as you say is Gingerbread. But you have to get your product out to the market first. If you aim for a product that shall have everything you know it can do, you will lose the market. Go for Froyo now and then a new product that have Gingerbread Q3 2011.

  5. ma10wong said, on July 29, 2010 at 14:05

    I wouldn’t bother with Gingerbread unless it brought some game-changing features that you feel the ADAM couldn’t live without… I mean, look at the Dell streak with its Android v1.6?!

    Would be ADAM owners will understand if it didn’t ship with the latest and greatest Android version and with your custom enhancements will be happy enough. Speaking of custom enhancements, this would further delay release if you did go with Gingerbread anway.

    What would be nice, is that you start shipping the ADAM with Android > v2 and then at the same time, start working with Gingerbread to get it ready for eventual release a short time after the ADAM release… to us customers, the time lag would seem shorter but to you guys you would’ve had more time between production updates.

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