Wow! Great….great!!……news I’m so exited looking at new website. It looks so cool…! I just love the simple silverish-white contrast color, design concept & the lightness followed on the website. Not to mention impressed especially with the design tab mentioning arithmetic harmony of the design concept involved on the adam. Sounds very comfortable, realistic & alive. Considering the strong & light chassis, matted glass, textured plastic, osumn speakers, the features & the eden it all does add a lot of life for the not so “perfect, yet! perfect product” we all love. And desperately await to have.
Congratulations! To “Team Notion Ink” for all this wonderfulness. And all the best with the things coming ahead!..
With Love on behalf of all the Adam fans outhere from around the world & everyone from Notionaddicts.com
We all await the adam!
Thank you ,
Its been a long weight but well worth it.
I have followed ADAM from the beginning,
an watched it evolve. Here on Lanzarote
all are apple mad and not the eating kind.
so it looks like that bezel is going to stay at that larger size then…?
the device got much larger over the last few prototypes due to the larger bezel. once being ~9.5″ x 6.5″, its now ~10.5″ x 7.5″. Certainly not a deal breaker for me, but the tiny border on the early prototypes is certainly one of the biggest aspects which drew me to the adam.
btw awesome site.
Just did a bunch of math; if the total device size is 269 mm x 191 mm, and the screen size is 256.54 mm (10.1 inches) with a 16:9 aspect ratio, this means our screen dimensions will be 223.6 mm x 125.8 mm (high school math FTW).
This leaves us with a border of 22.7 mm (0.86 INCHES) on either side of the screen, and assuming the border is of bottom of the screen is the same size as the left and right (since the top and bottom borders are obviously not equal, probably not a correct assumption, but probably pretty close), we have a bottom border of 22.7 mm (0.86 INCHES), and top border of 42.53 mm (1.67 INCHES).
Now, I’m calling the “border” as and area outside the screen and inside the edge of the device, so the actual black border around the screen is going to be slightly smaller than these measurements, especially the top border, since that also includes the curved mesh area. However, it’s slightly disappointing after seeing the early adam prototypes with such tiny borders….
@Winna, Your math is very, very close.
As per Pixel Qi product information the display dimensions are…
222.72 mm (H)
125.28 mm (V)
So If Adam is 269 mm x 191 mm then…
269 – 222.72 /2 = 23.14
191 – 125.28 / 2 = 32.86
Yes a little disappointing but I think it still looks great and Adam will still be the best available. And I think the wider bezel/border has become a lot less of a deciding factor for most people as they have learned more about the Adam’s great features. I agree, the smaller bezel/border would look better, but it definitely will not influence my purchase decision.
However, I am curious to know what happened. On October 12 Rohan said:
“You are not wrong in guessing that it looks thicker, and let me assure you that it is not there to stay! It is going to be reduced by 6.5mm from left and 5mm from right. The issue is with the Cover Lens (the Glass which covers the device), been painted more into inside!”
@Rohan Please comment on why it now appears the bezel/border will not be made narrower as you suggested. Maybe we are wrong… Are the dimensions on the website incorrect and therefore our calculations inaccurate too?
Rohan clearly said the bezel size will be 16mm on both sides, but from Greg’s calculations it doesn’t look so. what have changed? from Rohan’s post ipad has 22mm and looks Adam will have more than it?
*If* the dimensions are correct on the new specifications web page, and if we assume the bottom border is the same width as the left and right sides, then the borders would be:
23.14 mm / 0.911 in for Left, Right, Bottom
42.58 mm / 1.7945 in for Top
But really that is not much of a concern to me. There are pros and cons to both. Sure, it looks better when the border is narrower, but the wider border provides more area to hold on to.
Something I’ve been thinking about… If it the new dimensions are accurate and it really has grown, shouldn’t the weight have increased more too? If the weight has not increased much, then maybe the dimensions are wrong. At least that thought gives me hope to hold onto until I hear definitively from Rohan…
a word on larger bezel……….please….that is the only thing worrying me….seriously the boarders seem thick…….in our old pic the appearance was awesome…..please kindly reply…..many of us would like to know……..even if u skip the weekend special….please clarify this
yes looks this bezel is going to stay with market edition also, looked more sexy with thinner bezel. nice development of site , still need more time to get a market company / consumer electronics look. all the best.
My guess is that the bezel is wider due to the ‘golden ratio’. Anyone wants to do the math?
they need an english man to edit the english text. the language is not appropriate for mass market.
Agreed. I realize the important thing here is the actual product, but reading that website was just a little depressing. They’re trying to convey the philosophy and design behind the Adam, but the “bad” English totally ruins the message. I’d rather just have the spec list.
I love you, Notion Ink, but please dig up a proper marketing person for this sort of thing.
I only hope they have better translations with the UI/Genesis/Eden and their apps. But at least the new site is much better than the old one regarding English Grammar. Next thing to think about is which English they will choose: UK or US? India is more involved with the UK thanks to their common history, so I would appreciate they would vote for British English
also felt it was a turn-off, tbh. rohan, linguistic damage control, pronto!
The text on the new website is at least a step up from the stuff on this blog tbh. But yes, it can definitely use some editing. And I don’t think the language is inappropriate for the target market. The language is simple enough; they aren’t targeting illiterates. But I was confused about your statement about them “needing an english man”. Now which ever way I interpret that sentence, one thing is for sure: You are an ignoramus.
they need manufactor with good stave to fix it in 1 month this is ballshit one tablet take 2 years ??????
the links at the top should not randomly be pop-up and in-window. be consistent
Consistency seems to be problem all around.
Size 14x191x269 mm Weigth: 1.6 pounds
Whats wrong with that? Now only canadians _can_ read it, because they use metric system and live close enough to US of A to be familiar with that pound thing.
Design page seems to be intended for smaller screens. One should see only one “page” at the dime, but with 2000+ pixel horizontal resolution this “scrolling seems somewhat redundant. Not really a problem, but just… FYI
Do we really need so heavy flash content for two words: “coming soon”?
It would be lot better if you had nice picture with possibility of watching trailer. Maybe “peek” link or something.
Man, I really love the look of the website, but someone REALLY needs to go through it and fix all of the English grammar mistakes. Some parts of the websites just don’t make any sense.
I say this as a person who has lived in England all of his life. The website isn’t one which inspires confidence in English-speakers…
“some parts of the websites just don’t make any sense”
HAHAHAHA!! Yeah, so much for living in England your whole life.
” “some parts of the websites just don’t make any sense”
HAHAHAHA!! Yeah, so much for living in England your whole life. ”
lol – I added an “s” to “website” – sorry for typo :-).
In fact even though I added an “s” to that word by mistake, I’m quite confused – it’s still perfectly correct English :S. There are 2 websites, this one and notionink.com
I would suggest also including HTML and mobile versions of the site. Also consider HTML5 in future. Actually it’s rather boring looking at the percentage meter just to see the ‘coming soon’ video.
Also what is a 10000 in the top right corner of a frontpage?
the 10000 is believed to be a binary countdown to the release or pre order date
Rohan!.. Plz! i guess it’s high time you plan onto having a “search” posts(s) option in this blog out here. With a stagerring 2000+ posts. Its wreaking havok with my browser making it exponentially slow & hard to follow the comments every time i dive in here, the “Notion Ink Sea” as i call it.
Oh! And to be frank we enjoy to be out here more than any other blogs. Though they may be in the flag ship of notion ink.
Does anyone know if the new android system 2.3 has a kindle reader for electronic books. I run an online school and am thinking about providing Adam’s to students with textbooks preloaded…
Let me say once again…
Congratulations and thank you to everyone who was involved with getting the new NI website site this far. You have all done a fantastic job and we look forward to the changes and additions you will be making. Your long days and tireless efforts do not go unnoticed, nor are they unappreciated. THANK YOU!
You post too much, this is not a forum and not situated to handle an excessive amount of comments. Whenever I click on a post now, it takes an exorbitant amount of time to to load with the plethora of posts and is wreaking havok with my browser. Please use the unofficial forum that Rohan has suggested. I apologize if this comment comes across as mean spirited, as it is not directed to you in a hateful way nor is it directed at this specific comment.
Thanks Erik. No offense taken. Your opinion has been noted.
However you might consider that part of the problem is the speed of your internet connection or or some other technical issue with your browser, operating system, computer, etc.
The forum loads very quickly for me, even the other posts with thousands of comments.
But even if I cut back on posting, it would not make much difference as my posts are only small percentage of the total amount…
Yeah Greg, stop posting so much.
Hey, that wasn’t me. It was Evil Greg… I’ve only posted a couple times here. Right gecko?
Yes, and him not posting is going to help? Why don’t you write wordpress and tell them to make a better comment section?
Also, if you do not like the loading time, you might also want to try the forum. I’m sure the wait time will be cut down for you.
“Great” Love the place holder so you can go back and read the post thoroughly before commenting
Greg, have you discussed whether the “Secret Sensor” could be the track pad that is no longer mentioned? It would be obvious for us lot to say -”But we knew that” but the rest of the world might [and should] find it as revolutionary and important as it’s touted as being……a case of “Er, I shouldn’t have mentioned that”
I doubt it is the secret sensor, as it was mentioned in prototypes/interviews previously, but it is possible I guess.
When Rohan first told us about the bonus mystery feature back on November 6, he said…
“But indeed there is something hidden as of now from all of us which will change the dynamics little bit. It’s a much-needed missing feature in all the tablets out there, and we have one, cos we know you want it! But let’s wait for a while before we make it public.”
At that time most everyone already knew about the rear trackpad, it was already public knowledge. Even though we have not heard much about it recently, I bet it is still there. However I do not believe the rear trackpad is the bonus mystery feature…
I’m hoping it is something really big, like a digitizer. They have kind of made a big deal out of it by announcing to the world that a mystery feature exists, and by describing it as something that “will change the dynamics little bit” and something that is “a much-needed missing feature in all the tablets out there”.
The hidden comment in the source code for the specifications page gives us another hint. It reads:
“For any sneaky fellows looking through the code, heres a tidbit for you, theres a very awesome hidden sensor we’re gonna be revealing soon :D”
If that is accurate info, it appears it will be a sensor, and not just a sensor, but a very awesome sensor”. That rules out some of our ealier speculation which included things like a a built in kickstand and Gingerbread (though we know that will come shortly after it is released), etc. (I can’t remember the rest of the things we came up with as possibilities.)
I consider a digitizer a type of sensor, and even a very awesome sensor. So I still have my fingers crossed for that…
But according to his previous comment
” will change the dynamics little bit ”
A digitizer will make it “THE” perfect one .. and will change the dynamics in a big way…
oh it reminds me of doing crossword puzzles.. trying to rack your brain for that one word…
Rohan has clearly mentioned what the undisclosed sensor is supposed to do. He wrote that it is a mystery sensor. That is, it is a special sensor that will detect anything mysterious near the user. As far as I know, no other tablet (or gadget) has this feature.
Well, you don’t have Gecko to compete with you now.. but Gecko’s eyes (even the real lizard Gecko) stand out and he is not gonna miss this post
LOL, very Gecko-like comment indeed, VB.
Perhaps the Gecko and VB accounts belong to the same person?
BTW: congratulations, Greg for cracking the binary code on the NI website. Not bad for a gun nut (You know I really don’t take you for one, right? But I’ve seen the picture of your gun now. I dearly hope that’s not the one you try defending your home with. You could cause quite some collateral damage while aiming for bypassing burglars. I imagine your neighbor walking up to you with a strenuous face, trying to contain his dissatisfaction about the overall situation, asking whether you could give him any clue for why his former doghouse is now just a pile of shredded wood with thick patches of red underneath.
concerning the mystery sensor:
I have learned to take Rohan’s advertisements with a grain of salt here and there. I’m not one of those who believe that a 3 degree inclination will have a noticeable effect on ergonomics (but I’ll be happy to be proven wrong) or that the large borders are going away. (The image used on the website shows the large borders still, so…) IF the UI shown in the image of the website represents the current state of what Eden will look like then I’m not disappointed but also not in the least impressed. Also, dare perform the heresy to put it out there whether the Office Suite will be a text editor in the end. If it is an acual office suite I can only hope that it is a deal made with an existing provider and not a software developed in-house from scratch. Again, it remains to be seen. Everything can turn out to be just perfect but I also keep myself prepared for a disappointment. Whether or not the finish of the screen and the plastic surface will feel and look good still remains to be seen. The images shown until now depict gaps between assembled parts, strange surface properties (rough but too macroscopically and non-uniformly rough) but it could be due to the fact that these were just samples of the first production batch. Images of the final batch have not been shown yet as I believe/hope because for one thing, the ADAM logo on the screen was still in capital letters, even in the most recent bunch of photos) So it’s currently all in the wide open. The main thing that provides me with confidence is the impressive list of ingredients. The customized software will be the biggest risk. It could turn the product into a huge and long-lasting success or it could drag the good hardware down along with it. I HOPE and want to believe in a success of course, but I remain skeptical out of sheer heuristics.
The fact that Rohan abstained from commenting on whether Adam will come with a digitizer despite for one of the posters on this blog pressing him for a comment consistently, might be a good hint. But then again: there have been LOADS of tablets, convertibles, MIDs and smartphones that came with digitizer/stylus in the past. So that’s nothing new. But Rohan explicitly said that no tablet has this feature yet.
Could it be an RFC sensor? Well, wanna pay with an ADAM? Wanna lift up a 1,6 pound object to a pole to attain information of a landmark? Could be the ADAM comes with RFC but it that’s the secret sensor, I will definitely be disappointed as it will not be relevant for anyone in the near future.
Then, his wording about “dynamics” being increased could be used to try to narrow the scope of what the sensor might be, but the term dynamics can convey different notions. Some people think of movement, others of change or perturbance of value or range, yet others of a play of forces and counter. Actually, dynamics can be understood as pertaining to the range of applicability of a product. So basically, I believe nothing can eventually be narrowed down by analyzing the term dynamics, although it initially seems so.
I asked myself whether it could be said of an IRDA sensor to increase a non-tablet’s dynamics. That would appear to be a strange connotation to my, but then again, why not? The non-tablet’s range of use becomes broader so it’s dynamics increase… hmm.
Perhaps, the fact that the hidden sensor is being kept secret until product launch might mean that it will be a bombshell but I don’t think so.
For it to be truly phenominal it would have to be an accessory movement/gesture sensor to allow for navigation by motion. No one has that and I always fantasied about programming something in this area. Imagine that the screen is like a window and by moving it towards your eyes or back you could increase/decrease the viewing angle into Eden. While moving the device sideways, a webpage would appear to be fixed in space with the screen panning across it. Flicking the device might turn pages etc… But then again: why shoud Adam come with a motion navigation, multitouch screen, backside trackpad AND navigation keys?! Of course, a digitizer needs to be there and why not through in an optical trackball too? I’m not a fan of having all sorts of interactive means to choose from. The perfect scenario would be to find the one interaction mode that rules them all
Another thing that would be nice would be those rubber thingies that work like a stylus but have the abilities of digitizers. A korean university has experimented around with this stuff a lot. I cannot play with konsole emulators on my smartphone because there is no hardware controller and having buttons and joysticks painted on screen doesn’t really work well. But a rubber overlay that covers part of the screen an has a relief for buttons or joypads would be perfect. Such a mat could be like a page in a file that is flipped onto the screen of ADAM if the device were part of a filofax style casing. For stylus like navigation, there would be a rubber thingy shaped like a thimble with a flexible knob on top perfect for creating different stroke breadths.
Yet another nice sensor addition would be one that could be used for motion tracking or even better yet, head-tracking ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=DE&hl=de&v=Jd3-eiid-Uw ). Do I think that any of these will be candidates for the secret sensor? No.
In fact, I can’t think of anything that could fit into the given price range and yet be a revolutionary thing. So, I’m still guessing that it is an IRDA sensor. There haven’t been any tablets that had that pre equipped that I know of.
what a long post.!!!
anyways i do believe a gesture of sorts, though not to the extent of moving your eye lids and the page size decreasing.. but i have noticed in one of his previous videos where he talks about some sort of gesturing..
gesturing with hands to flip pages..
hmmm.. gesture – i have seen a video in slashgear , Rohan talking about some gesture features like flipping a page…
that would be good
> Perhaps the Gecko and VB accounts belong to the same person?
At least one of them does.
> Greg for cracking the binary code on the NI website. Not bad for a gun nut (You know I really don’t take you for one, right?
Of course, he’s a gun nut. And if he likes vegetables, he’s a pea-nut as well.
>I’m not one of those who believe that a 3 degree inclination will have a noticeable effect on ergonomics (but I’ll be happy to be proven wrong)
In that case, you can be happy. Take a keyboard, or you can use one of Quandite’s cargo-cult Adams. Lay it flat on the table and type. Then prop it up 3 degrees (if you don’t want to guess, make a crude protractor from the corner of a piece of paper, divide it in 3rds, then 10th, or any other factorization you like). Try it again. This won’t be exactly 3 degrees, but you should get the point.
> I also keep myself prepared for a disappointment.
Well, Rohan has withdrawn the claim that this is the greatest thing since the creation, so he may be preparing all of us for a let down.
>Whether or not the finish of the screen and the plastic surface will feel and look good still remains to be seen.
I like the bit about feeling almost alive. Makes it sound like it’s wrapped in meat.
I believe I know what the mystery sensor is (or might be). I don’t think it’s the touchpad, even though your arguments make sense. Think what is so needed for tablets? The RFID sensor! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rfid It’s already present in some of the new cell phones. You can use such sensor for example to read the Electronic Product Codes of the goods in the shops and then lookup the product online. One example of RFID was also introduced few years ago with Microsoft multitouch table.
I do see the trackpad as an awsome sensor that would change the dynamics of tablets. Not least because you can use the pad while simply holding it rather than having to let go to touch the screen.
But you’re right the evidence points away from that. I hope it hasn’t been dropped altogether.
While having no use for a digitiser (i thought drawing tablets and screens where out there already :/ ) I can see alot of you are excited about the prospect
Perfect! =) Let’s check!
Thanks Rohan. It was starting to get messy in there.
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